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| ... Buying blind What are people's opinions on it? I personally just dont get it & its becoming a real niggle of mine at the moment. I dont get how you can expect to get a suitable horse & good personality match for yourself when you dont try it before hand or try it properly in a variety of situations... To put it into context for you, I am seeing more & more people around me & known to me buying blind & then either having problems & complaining about them, sometimes under horsing themselves but more so & increasingly dangerously in my eyes over horsing themselves. It always seems to be simple glaringly obvious things that would have been realised if they had tried the animal. Ok being in Jersey to try a horse on the mainland is prob going to cost you £150-£300 but still ... Obviously the situation varies slightly if your the type of person or in the situation where you can be a bit open as to what the animals really like as you are in a position to sell it on etc & that you are just looking for a good stamp of a horse & will cope with the rest etc. That you are buy a proven show animal etc, or if you have enough money not to really worry  But for me, its novicey type or unconfident riders that seem to being doing this & the type where money IS an issue & they want a decent horse on decent budget. To me it seems illogical that you shouldnt be able to spare a bit of money in order to travel to try a horse if they are seemingly that right for you? I just dont get it. Im so quietly sick of people complaining & most of the time blaming the horse when really they should be kicking themselves i think. My question is, do you think you can ever truely & safey buy blind in that situation? Would you ever risk it? What do you think .. [NB: Above is no relation to any forum members ]

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| I know it's different for me, but i've bought lots of horses unseen. Not a good idea really, but I think it's more important to know the person you're dealing with on the other end. Not very long ago, I bought 2 horses unseen of someone who said she'd had them for years, turned out one of them she'd bought the very same day for a nominal amount as it was lame and being sold as a companion. If I had viewed it first, I would have known it was very unsound. It turned out that the seller picked on me because I was the dealer farthest away and she wanted me to buy from photographs. I would buy unseen from a person I know and would certainly buy blind again, but at a price that would warrant taking a chance. I think if a private buyer goes down the chancy route, they should make sure they have some form of a warranty to fall back on 
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even tho i buy most of mine at sales, i can still try em etc, however i brought blue unseen, however i knew his breeding and for a unseen buy my god was he worth it, his an beautiful allround package i wouldn't swap for the world !
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| I personally wouldn't - but then I know what I want from a horse, I don't have unlimited funds, and I know my own limitations when it comes to horses. Unfortunately, the true novice is much more easily swayed as they probably don't really understand what the potential problems are. It is also very very much easier to say 'I can't afford the extra expense' when you're cutting it fine financially anyway. I used to begrudge an extra £5 cost on anything when I was struggling to pay the household bills, let alone an extra £100+ (I wasn't looking to buy another horse at that time though )
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| When it comes to novicey riders I think there is a bigger problem anyway; how do you know what you want in a horse if you've never had a horse before?! That was certainly my problem. Mt friend recommended Chester to me for my first horse. She has seen me ride & knew what I was capable of & on the surface you would probably think we were a good match. But he was almost too safe! I love Morgan for her unpredictability - it keeps me on my toes & suits me much better. I couldn't have known that without owning a horse that wasn't the right match for me first. Even if you're lucky enough to get a trial for a couple of weeks it still isn't enough to truely know what you're buying. I really think that a loan with a view to purchase is probably the only safe way to get the right match! (that's just my thoughts anyway )
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| I think if you are a nervous novice it is ESSENTIAL to try. How will you know if that specific horse will gain your confidence unless you go and sit on it for youself. Somone can tell you it's suitbale but how will they know unless they feel what you feel? I went over and tried both horses and I have bought and both realistically were unsuitable even on both occasssions I ticked all the right boxes for having done right thing. Ie trial in different situations vetting knoweledgeable friends. But I have dealt with/dealing with the issues that have arisen and love every minute of it (ok that's a fib but you know what I mean). And I haven't been too proud to ask for help in the areas I cannot resolve alone (i have an instructor once a week as well as a lovely yard of supportive people). I was just thinking earlier I cant remeber the last time I genuinely turned to Jelly thinking about or doing something with Bob which is fantastic really as the mere thought of hacking a few weeks ago made me litearlly freeze in my tracks and the tummy churn. But because I tried him I knew he was a nice little horse and even though not entirely suitable we are achieving what I want to together  Oppss sorry finished yapping now  ETA sorry also meant to say buying blind saves you money at the time but always costs you more in the long run!
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I think it depends on the situation. If you are a novice, nervous, looking for something really particular or spending a lot of money then it's just plain idiotic. You wouldn't buy a car from a photo.
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When I went to see Charlie he hadn't been ridden for 9months. So riding him would have been pointless anyway as he may have exploded or been a plod purely due to the fact he hadn't been exercised. I did however spend time handling him and just getting to know him. It was a one time viewing though and he came a week later.
When we went to see Jack both of us rode in the school and hacked him, asked a million questions spent about 4hours with his owner at their house and then decided we would have him. He had to be the right sort as OH is obviously less experienced than me and I didnt want OH losing confidence. I keep in very close contact with his owner too.
On a whole though I do think its silly, especially when people then complain the horse isnt suitable!!
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TallyHo (12/03/2010) I know it's different for me, but i've bought lots of horses unseen. Not a good idea really, but I think it's more important to know the person you're dealing with on the other end. I would buy unseen from a person I know and would certainly buy blind again, but at a price that would warrant taking a chance.Yeah i would say its different for you TH however i was really interested to get your opinion on this. Do you get many people buying blind? or not really trying them out very much before agreeing to buy? Tigs (12/03/2010)
.... It is also very very much easier to say 'I can't afford the extra expense' when you're cutting it fine financially anyway. I used to begrudge an extra £5 cost on anything when I was struggling to pay the household bills, let alone an extra £100+ (I wasn't looking to buy another horse at that time though  ) I completely understand that people have to think about money & try to save pennies. I for one have never had a lot of funds to spend on horses & doubt i will be able to in he next 5 years. Harley cost me £1500 & Westie £500, but i tried them as much as could & knew they were going to come with quirks & it was going to be a huge gamble & challenge to get them to come good. If i had a decent budget though theres no way i'd be skimping on trying a horse, i'd save until i could cover it & then go looking. I dont know ... Zychrono (12/03/2010)
.I really think that a loan with a view to purchase is probably the only safe way to get the right match! (that's just my thoughts anyway  ) I agree, ideal situation thats definately the best & safest way to get to know whether the horse really is a good match Jersey Girl (12/03/2010)
I think if you are a nervous novice it is ESSENTIAL to try. How will you know if that specific horse will gain your confidence unless you go and sit on it for youself. Somone can tell you it's suitbale but how will they know unless they feel what you feel? ETA sorry also meant to say buying blind saves you money at the time but always costs you more in the long run! True in my eyes. Someone can try for you but at the end of the day everyone rides differently & horses go differently for different people plus sometimes you just dont 'gel' together. I have experienced that on a few occasions As much as i'd hate to agree with the last bit JG from what i have seen so far... generally this is the case in one way or the other. Perhaps i will be pleasantly suprised if the latest two work out when they arrive/settle, hmmm, watch this space. xoclairexo (12/03/2010)
Her owner gave me all the prior owners details and I spoke with them, I got Mo's passport details and even managed to find the person who originally bought her over from belgium  I scruitinised video taken of her and loads and loads of photos and all that remained to do when she arrived was sit on her  I don't expect everything to be rosy but so far so good and she continues to surprise me everyday in a good way  I hope things go to plan & it works out so that not viewing her in the initial stages wouldnt have made a difference etc. Let us know in 6 months time & give us your thoughts on your buy? i'd be very intrigued to know how she compares when settled etc 

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